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Decline Of AA's BNA Hub  
User currently offlineN702ML From United States, joined Jan 2005, 545 posts, RR: 4
Posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5223 times:

Hello everyone...

I recently received a message from a fellow a.netter asking for information on the final year of the American Airlines Nashville hub.

The result was a speadsheet-type webpage that lists the number of daily departures at eight different dates between September 1994 and December 1995.

I thought that perhaps some other a.netters would be interested in the information and possibly spawn some discussion....

www.departedflights.com/AABNAhub.html

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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States, joined Sep 2004, 12442 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5182 times:

Quite interesting... yes .

AA has cut flights on other large cities too, such as SJC... Sad

Thanks for the information.  thumbsup 


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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From United States, joined Jun 2006, 3085 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5175 times:
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Didnt AA pull mainline out of BNA first than Eagle? I think RDU was the opposite.

User currently offlineEXAAUADL From United States, joined Jun 2006, 3085 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5158 times:
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I remember Eage was stuck in Tuscaloosa and Tupelo cuz of EAS

User currently offlineAirlittoralguy From France, joined Nov 2005, 157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5100 times:

Does someone know what was the schedule of the flights to LGW from BNA ??


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User currently offlineTys777 From United States, joined Aug 2006, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4785 times:

8 flights between BNA and both TYS and CHA, anyone know what they flew those with?


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User currently offlineNkops From United States, joined Jun 2005, 1667 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4701 times:



Quoting Tys777 (Reply 5):
8 flights between BNA and both TYS and CHA, anyone know what they flew those with?

I'm not 100% sure, but I think Corporate Express was running for AA out of BNA in the J31.. they might have been on those routes.


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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From United States, joined Jun 2006, 3085 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4665 times:
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Quoting Nkops (Reply 6):
I'm not 100% sure, but I think Corporate Express was running for AA out of BNA in the J31.. they might have been on those routes.

No, Corporate Express flew for JI and then flew BNA-RDU and BNA-ATL in their own IATA code. I think it was Flagship that flew for Eagle out of BNA. Corporate Express used ATL as a way to get the planes back and forth between their BNA HDQ and RDU hub.

User currently offlineWESTERN737800 From United States, joined Feb 2008, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4652 times:

Too bad it didnt work. Lots of hubs in that area. ATL, MEM, STL (back in the TW days), CVG, ORD & MDW, DFW, IAH.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States, joined May 2005, 14734 posts, RR: 44
Reply 9, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4612 times:

I liked their BNA hub. I remember transiting there back in the day to Houston.


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User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States, joined Feb 2006, 1203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4547 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 9):
I liked their BNA hub.

Just fly WN through there and you can experience most of it again!

User currently offlineNkops From United States, joined Jun 2005, 1667 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4406 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 7):
No, Corporate Express flew for JI

That's right..forgot about Midway.. thanx


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States, joined May 2004, 7262 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4365 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 7):
No, Corporate Express flew for JI and then flew BNA-RDU and BNA-ATL in their own IATA code. I think it was Flagship that flew for Eagle out of BNA.

I think that's right, though 3C did some p2p Junkstream flying out of BNA long after the hub closed. They flew BNA-ATL up until 3-4 years ago (that was propped up by a fat corporate contract for someone, maybe BellSouth) and also BNA-TRI in the same time frame. Those flights had AA* codes, as did the BNA-STL runs (now flown by MQ/AX/CHQ).

There's a nice site on the various incarnations of 3C at http://www.corpex.us/


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User currently offlineFlyAA From United States, joined Aug 2003, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4281 times:

N702ML,
Thanks so much for the spreadsheet analysis! It's very interesting, and I appreciate you taking the time to post this!

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States, joined May 2005, 14734 posts, RR: 44
Reply 14, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4217 times:



Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 10):
Just fly WN through there and you can experience most of it again!

Including the Admirals Club?  Wink

And something tells me that WN doesn't run EWR-BNA/BNA-IAH connections. Call it a hunch…


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User currently offlineBreaker1011 From United States, joined Nov 2007, 522 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4013 times:

If you went back even farther, you might be surprised to see how many mainline flights were jumping out of AA's BNA. I remember flying several times on one of 3 72S's per day from CVG-BNA when the hub opened, and always getting mainline wherever I went from there - BHM, ATL, MOB, MSY. If you ask me, once the Eaglets (mostly a bunch of J31's) started replacing all of that mainline capacity, the hub began it's decline. It was a GREAT little hub!

User currently offlineLexy From United States, joined Jun 2006, 955 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (2 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3786 times:
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Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 10):
Just fly WN through there and you can experience most of it again!

Exactly! And now that the terminal is getting a face lift inside, it's quite nice!


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User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States, joined Feb 2005, 1533 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (2 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3620 times:

I remember AA still having a hub there in March 1995. I used to pass through Nashville on the way down to Spring Break in Panama City on way down from Michigan - always would stop for a while at BNA. I never saw anything bigger than a 727 at BNA, mainly MD-80s and ATR-42, 72, Jetstream 31 and Saab 340s. I thought I recalled AA still at BNA in March 1996, but I could be wrong. Definitely by 1997, it was Southwest that was really big there and barely anything from AA.

User currently offlineMarcoPoloWorld From United States, joined Mar 2008, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3491 times:

It must have been a great time for Nashville in the early 1990s - superb new terminal with all the facilities: mainline wings, international arrivals gate/lounge, regional wing, and using the old complex on the other end as cargo facility.

And in the mid-1990s heyday, didn't AA operate nonstop service between Nashville and London?

I spent a couple of years in Nashville at the very end of the 1990s - by that time AA had already mostly de-hubbed and - as others mentioned above - Southwest's takeover was very tangible and set much of the atmosphere. Unfortunately, that probably won't change; the socio-economics and volumes just aren't there in the Nashville area for a huge mainline presence without the artificial inflation of hub operations. And although the city is a tourist magnet, it's mostly domestic tourism. There is growth in the region, but it mostly comes from surrounding regions. So thus, probably no return of intercontinental service anytime soon.

Nonetheless, Nashville should be pretty ok with the air service it receives currently and - contrary to what some are saying - isn't underserved relative to demand.

Now, if only public transit service to the airport would be better (only the MTA 15 line running hourly back in the day I lived in the area, and I doubt that's changed). Not to mention sidewalks on surrounding roads - but that might be too much to ask for in the South!  Wink

User currently offlineCha747 From United States, joined Dec 2003, 702 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3391 times:



Quoting Tys777 (Reply 5):
8 flights between BNA and both TYS and CHA, anyone know what they flew those with?

I remember when this used to be a mainline flight...IIRC, Super 80 service, perhaps 727 though. That was the late 80's though when Delta and Eastern also had 727 service from CHA-ATL!


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User currently offlineSflaflight From United States, joined Nov 2005, 527 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3302 times:

I can't believe AA never flew to FLL from BNA hub. Did anyone else do?